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Scott Miller Silver 110 posts since
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Apr 13, 2007 7:53 AM

Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

Can, someone PLEASE update the spark manager 1.1.0 plugin to be compatible with the new openfire release??  PLEASE??  For those of us that do not yet own enterprise, but heavily rely on having the ability of stopping all the external traffic from clients getting updates, and notifications constantly, when an update might be in their best interest..Plus the added benefit of letting them get the update right from our own internal server instantly..  I understand that it has been integrated into enterprise, but I am really hoping someone could possibly change the few bits of code to make the old pugin work for the rest of us..  Did I mention PLEASE!!    If someone could do this for me I would owe you one.. 

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Apr 13, 2007 7:51 PM in response to: Scott Miller
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

A second vote for updating Spark Manager for Openfire.  It has been great for deploying the new versions of Spark.

wroot KeyContributor 3,481 posts since
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Apr 14, 2007 11:52 AM in response to: Scott Miller
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

Guys, it''s like asking MS to get rid of Genuine Advantage. Sparka Manager functions are included in Enterprise plugin, so 99% there is no way for Spark Manager to be available again. And for free.

Matt Tucker Jiver 3,155 posts since
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Apr 14, 2007 12:15 PM in response to: Scott Miller
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

Hey all,

 

Unfortunately, the old Spark manager breaking is something we didn''t anticipate during the rename process -- but basically all the old plugins broke. I would hope that if the feature is really that valuable, you guys could use it as a justification for getting budget at your companies to buy the Enterprise edition. We definitely need support from all of you! We make pretty massive investments in Open Source development and none of that could exist without paying customers.

 

Regards,

Matt

 

P.S. wroot -- somehow I don''t really like the Microsoft genuine advantage comparison, but I know what you''re getting at.

Matt Tucker Jiver 3,155 posts since
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Apr 15, 2007 1:19 PM in response to: Scott Miller
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

Stealth111,

 

Got your email, will reply to you that way. Of course we''d like to help you guys out if at all possible.

 

Regards,

Matt

LG KeyContributor 5,068 posts since
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Apr 17, 2007 3:22 PM in response to: Scott Miller
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

Hi,

 

a "reversed engineered the spark manager" if still much finer than a reversed engineered enterprise plugin so I wonder how hard it will be for Igniterealtime.org to release a free plugin.

 

As I did post in the other thread admins with proxy servers may partly fix this problem. A modified /etc/file with "127.0.0.1 www.jivesoftware.com" and a local webserver on the proxy which handles requests for http://www.jivesoftware.com:9090/plugins/enterprise/getspark?client=spark_2_5_1_ beta1.exe will save the bandwidth but if one delivers none or an old version Spark will still check every ?day/?startup for a new version. And one can no longer access http://www.jivesoftware.com/ using this proxy.

 

LG

wroot KeyContributor 3,481 posts since
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Apr 16, 2007 3:17 AM in response to: Matt Tucker
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0
matt wrote:

P.S. wroot -- somehow I don''t really like the Microsoft genuine advantage comparison, but I know what you''re getting at.

 

I know it sounds harsh But couldnt think of any other comparison that moment

Bronze 44 posts since
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Apr 16, 2007 7:34 AM in response to: Scott Miller
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

I used the Spark Manager to block the upgrade messages since my users have no admin rights to their machines.  I would do this manually when they needed the upgrade and now they will be getting a message repeatedly to upgrade with no options to say "NO DON''T ASK AGAIN!".

Todd Plank Bronze 23 posts since
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Apr 16, 2007 9:33 AM in response to: gknapper
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

Make that three votes for Spark Manager.  Our users are allowed to setup Spark themselves, and have not needed to, or been instructed to, setup their proxy settings.  So my Spark installations do not currently have access to the Internet to be able to download updates directly.  I rely on Spark Manager to distribute updates in the most hassle-free way possible.

Marko Bronze 36 posts since
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Apr 16, 2007 9:56 AM in response to: Scott Miller
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

Make mine vote #4.  We are using the Spark Manager 1.1 plugin too.If someone can fix it that would be fantastic.  If not, can someone please send me the source code?

igoriyah Bronze 36 posts since
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Apr 16, 2007 10:23 AM in response to: Scott Miller
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

A four vote for updating Spark Manager for Openfire.

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Apr 16, 2007 11:33 AM in response to: Scott Miller
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

Make me vote #5.  I will not be upgrading to Openfire 3.3.0 very soon unless the Spark Manager plugin is fixed.  We simply cannot afford to go enterprise.  Is there anyway a free version can be made available.  Maybe with limited functionality?

Andy250 Bronze 29 posts since
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Apr 17, 2007 9:27 AM in response to: Scott Miller
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

Vote number 6 for an updated SparkManager.  Enterprise is just not going to get approved here in the next 12-18 months.  I could probably get the money for a one time fee, if it is reasonable.  If I can''t get a solution, I''m going to have to block the site at my firewall.  After reviewing the update code on the SVN...its the ingniterealtime.com site, so it will end up blocking this site all together....not what I want to do, but needed, especially since you are moving to smaller, more frequent updates.

 

An alternative would be to have a way to disable updates all together.  Every well behaved piece of software out there with Auto-update functionality has a way to turn it off.  I''ve always been amazed that Spark does not.

 

-Andy

wroot KeyContributor 3,481 posts since
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Apr 17, 2007 2:07 PM in response to: Andy250
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0
Andy250 wrote:

An alternative would be to have a way to disable updates all together.  Every well behaved piece of software out there with Auto-update functionality has a way to turn it off.  I''ve always been amazed that Spark does not.

 

So maybe we should vote for this:

http://www.igniterealtime.org/forum/thread.jspa?threadID=25872&tstart=0

 

Spark Manager reviving looks hopeless too me

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Apr 17, 2007 2:17 PM in response to: Scott Miller
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

I also think Spark Manager is needed. This feature is not enough to justify the expense of enterprise. Given how often the Spark client changes, a built in distribution method is hightly desireable.

 

Also, Ignite Realtime''s site still purports that it is available, implying that it works and is available. This should be updated if it won''t be made to work with Openfire.

 

Message was edited by: jmalkoff

Matt Tucker Jiver 3,155 posts since
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Apr 18, 2007 12:42 AM in response to: jmalkoff
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

Hey guys,

 

We''re definitely listening to the feedback and one thing we don''t like is having a feature that people feel forced into Enterprise for. We''re discussing things internally and will post up more tomorrow. Hopefully good news for you guys.

 

-Matt

Todd Plank Bronze 23 posts since
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Apr 18, 2007 10:24 AM in response to: Matt Tucker
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

Thanks for the feedback, Matt.  I''m glad you''re re-considering the tool.  Having features only available in Enterprise is to be expected.  What was frustrating to me is to have a really good tool taken away without even a mention of it, and after realizing the oversight, to suggest we pay to get it back.  If many companies are like mine, we have a yearly budget cycle, so it would mean waiting until 2008 to have funds to replace a tool that disappeared without warning.

Marko Bronze 36 posts since
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Apr 18, 2007 5:27 PM in response to: Matt Tucker
Re: Spark Manager for openfire 3.3.0

Matt, thanks listening to us!  I am looking forward to some GOOD NEWS tomorrow!!