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winsrev KeyContributor 247 posts since
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May 6, 2008 8:25 AM

What features would you like to see in Spark?

Hello Ignite Community,

 

Okay, so, i've been fixing and adding some new features to Spark, but, what the Jira seems to lack the most is what features that the community are actually look for, so, today i pledge to you to share with us the features that you would like to see in the next spark (not 2.5.9 but 3.0.0 is Daniel wants to go to that for the next version)

 

Try and give a good description of the feautre too.

 

Thanks,

WinSrev

Todd Getz KeyContributor 1,925 posts since
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May 6, 2008 8:36 AM in response to: winsrev
Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

A smaller footprint would be real nice.

modulok Bronze 39 posts since
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May 9, 2008 2:56 PM in response to: Todd Getz
Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

 

YES!!

 

 

Right now Spark is using 68M, while Pidgin is only using 24M .

 

 

jeffreyvsmith Bronze 95 posts since
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May 6, 2008 9:41 AM in response to: winsrev
Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

I would like to see a lite version, geared more toward the enterprises wanting a minimal, but good-looking, IM client. Some people need all the features, but for most of my users I wish I could remove the icons and menu options for VoIP, downloads, broadcasts, etc. They just need chat, that's it. A smaller memory footprint on the 'full' client, the ability to deploy via Group Policies without needing a script to put the properties files in the right place (%USERPROFILE%/spark). I'm sure I'll come up with more later.

jeffreyvsmith Bronze 95 posts since
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May 6, 2008 9:59 AM in response to: winsrev
Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

That's fine. Perhaps then, since I bet many users are using active directory, an ADM template for managing Spark settings via group policies. Ultimately I am just looking for tighter control over what the IM users can do. Thanks for soliciting suggestions.

slushpupie KeyContributor 702 posts since
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May 7, 2008 10:57 AM in response to: winsrev
Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

A thought on making a "lite" version:  Make most functionality from plugins.  So admins could just remove plugins they dont want, but the "normal" spark will come pre-loaded with the typical stuff.

jeffreyvsmith Bronze 95 posts since
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May 7, 2008 10:59 AM in response to: slushpupie
Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

Yeah, I like that.

Todd Getz KeyContributor 1,925 posts since
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May 6, 2008 10:27 AM in response to: jeffreyvsmith
Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

Now this post made me remember some reall issues:

 

 

 

 

Preferences on OS X and Windows are stored in the wrong location. The root of a profile is not the proper location for preferences. OS X should be in the Library folder of the user at the very least. Windows should have it in the Application Data of the user profile.

 

 

 

 

Default download location should be outside of the spark preferences folder.  Ideally it should be in a subfolder of the My Documents folder of windows or Documents folder of OS X (10.5 has a downloads folder).  The best solution would be to cause a wizard to run the first time spark is launched to set the downloads location, and other custom settings.

 

 

 

 

 

Broadcasts should honor the server settings. If broadcasting is disabled users should not be able to do this. Currently they can.

 

 

 

 

 

Sepparate the Gateway Icon bar and the Function Icon bar (Downloads, Broadcast, etc) onto 2 different horozontal bars. When the roster window is made thinner the gateway icons are not available (see image, I have 5 gateways running).

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Daniel Henninger Jiver 2,867 posts since
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May 6, 2008 10:36 AM in response to: Todd Getz
Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

Wow winsrev, why don't you just paint a target on your face.    Kidding.

 

One thought I had regarding the button bar that Todd mentions is, maybe instead of two horizontal rows, embrace the concept of the "more" or "sliding" design.  In other words.... 

 

More Style:

This is what you see in Windows XP in the "shortcut" area and the doc area.  When there are more icons than can fit, a little "show more" option shows up and it pops up the rest of them for you to interact with.

 

Slider Style:

Left and right arrows, you click right to "slide" to the right to see more buttons.

 

Personally I don't like the idea of cluttering vertically with two horizontal bars.  And really, any of those rows can just get wider and wider the more extra stuff is installed.  It would be better to "cut it off at the pass" so to speak.  Note that I attemped to work out the slider design and never had time to get anywhere with it.

 

BTW, one of the biggest things -I'd- like to see is a better chat transcript handler.  I rely on my chat transcripts and Spark pisses them away easily.  Right now, if I shut down Spark I lose all of the active transcripts.  I have to close each tab individually first to actually save each transcript.

 

In my ideal world, the entire thing ought to be redone from the ground up.  Adium's style is good and I think is a good model to go with.  Basically you have a transcript "task" of sorts that's sitting there writing transcript entries to disk.  Incoming messages are sent to this transcript manager/task/whatever you want to call it and it queues up messages that need to be saved, in a different thread, and is capable of throttling and such.  If you save immediately after every message in the same thread as what's displaying the messages, you will start seeing some slowdown as file systems are accessed and such.  Just gets in the way.  =)  This is another thing I was working out in my head and never had time to get anywhere with.

Todd Getz KeyContributor 1,925 posts since
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May 6, 2008 10:49 AM in response to: Daniel Henninger
Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

I like the slider idea as well.  Better than my lame idea.

Anselm McClain Bronze 18 posts since
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May 13, 2008 1:41 PM in response to: winsrev
Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

 

Please consider an option to centrally disable local transcript logging in an enterprise's Spark clients.  I have a custom build of Spark designed to remove all chat transcripts.  We don't need to keep them, and we don't want them stored all over the place (makes a centralized books and records policy unworkable).

 

 

Ideally, would be centrally managed via an Openfire plugin (similar to file xfers, etc).  At the very least, please ensure that we can go into the code if need be and force transcript saving to off.

 

 

Thanks! - ATM

 

 

Daniel Henninger Jiver 2,867 posts since
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May 6, 2008 10:53 AM in response to: winsrev
Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

laugh  Could I do it?  Probably.  Do I have time to?  No way.  =)

wroot KeyContributor 3,192 posts since
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May 7, 2008 2:04 AM in response to: winsrev
Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

As about gateways toolbar. Well, those icons are mostly for indication for me (gateway is working or not). So it's good to see them all without the need to press More or sliders. Now i use only 2-4 of them, so i dont bother. But maybe i would prefer to have another toolbar.

Daniel Henninger Jiver 2,867 posts since
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May 7, 2008 12:38 PM in response to: winsrev
Re: What features would you like to see in Spark?

Ug, I really don't like the idea of multiple toolbars.  Your chat client will start looking like microsoft word.  Besides, you can't predict how wide or not wide folk are going to have their contact list window so picking an arbitrary number wouldn't really work out.