Ignite Realtime Video Podcasts

RE: Web Apps vs. Desktop Apps

chase@osdev.org — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:25:10 GMT

I can't believe no one has posted a comment yet....

So after watching this I'm even more confused about the statement made about the future direction of the clients earlier. After watching this vid the main concepts I'm left with are:

A) Web apps are nice because they don't have to be installed and you don't have to rewrite them for different platforms.

B) Web apps have usability and UI issues that will never be fully overcome and a non-web applicaition will always provide a better experience to the user.

Are you hoping that one day flash and specialized web browsers give you the portability of Java while providing the look of a OS-native app? Why adopt a new technology when you already have that with Java?

Webapps are great when you aren't always on the same system or don't have permission to install something. Having a webapp version as a secondary alternative is essential but it shouldn't be considered the platform of choice for the reasons outlined in the video.

RE: Packet Filter Plugin for Openfire

RobAlexander — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:56:42 GMT

This plugin looks great! Any idea when Oracle will be added to its list of supported databases?

RE: External vs. Internal Gateways

bensonk — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:47:01 GMT

I have been running jabberd 1.4.3 with msn-transport, yahoo-transport and aim-transport for a long time now. I've been incredibly unhappy with the whole system, and recently found openfire when I was looking for alternatives. I've been running it on my home router/firewall/server to test it, and have been using the Gateway plugin a lot. I've been very very impressed with how it works, and really appreciate all of the features you mentioned that depend on being an integral part of the server itself. I would be very sad to see you move to a system that would allow the gateway to run on a different box if you had to sacrifice any of that functionality. I'm planning to migrate the server running jabberd to openfire as soon as I find time to write a script to translate the jabberd xml user files to openfire xml.

Anyway, thanks for the incredible transport plugin.

RE: Packet Filter Plugin for Openfire

ryang — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:02:28 GMT

I really like this plugin. Your approach of giving users a tool to create their own solutions, rather than a solution to a single problem (like my subscription plugin ) makes a lot of sense.

RE: Openfire Clustering Technologies with Gato

azilber — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:36:02 GMT

Gato,

Another question in a similar vein. If we're using a hardware layer7 load balancer to maintain connections for aim-xmpp and the connection manager is clustered, if it fails and another connection manager instance takes over will it be able to take over the already open connection?

RE: Openfire Clustering Technologies with Gato

azilber — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:27:32 GMT

Gato,

Will there be a clustered connection manager included with this? For example, if we're connected to aol (aim-xmpp) which is a statefull connection, with Openfire Cluster, will the connection be maintained by the connection managers?

RE: External vs. Internal Gateways

jadestorm — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:14:56 GMT

Listen to the rest of it where I said nickname isn't that bad, groups are the real problem.

RE: External vs. Internal Gateways

sanderd — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:34:30 GMT

You say something about difficulties with nickname changes etc. Why don't you simply add support for User Nickname (PEP)? It is already supported in the wild (at least Coccinella does), and Mats said it is not that difficult to implement.

RE: External vs. Internal Gateways

jadestorm — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:05:52 GMT

Why thank you =) I'm glad folk are enjoying it and it seems to be doing some real "good" out there!

RE: External vs. Internal Gateways

dave123 — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:26:08 GMT

dear daniel,
thanks for your podcast and also a big thank you for the probably best openfire plugin out there!