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	<title>Comments on: Ring Ring!</title>
	<link>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/</link>
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		<title>by: Ze</title>
		<link>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/#comment-13223</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 00:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>10 drafts born around SIP while 1 line is written for jingle, I wonder where will be jingle when google leaves it. SIP is replacing everything in the legacy telco world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 drafts born around SIP while 1 line is written for jingle, I wonder where will be jingle when google leaves it. SIP is replacing everything in the legacy telco world.
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		<title>by: dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/#comment-3180</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>SIP federation is alive and well in the higher ed community - SIP.edu has over 250,000 users reachable.  Now we just need get all those users reachable via XMPP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SIP federation is alive and well in the higher ed community - SIP.edu has over 250,000 users reachable.  Now we just need get all those users reachable via XMPP.
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		<title>by: Upcoming Conferences at Jive Talks</title>
		<link>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/#comment-2638</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/#comment-2638</guid>
					<description>[...] VON, March 20-22: Greg and I will be staked out at Booth 1641. Stop by to see the the latest VoIP (Jingle and SIP) work we're doing at Jive. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] VON, March 20-22: Greg and I will be staked out at Booth 1641. Stop by to see the the latest VoIP (Jingle and SIP) work we&#8217;re doing at Jive. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: fabieuse</title>
		<link>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/#comment-2546</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@matt:
no matter which proposal the XSF decides for- i hope it's one that works. on my setup, google talk is the only client that allows me to transfer files. so my choice would be jingle ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@matt:<br />
no matter which proposal the XSF decides for- i hope it&#8217;s one that works. on my setup, google talk is the only client that allows me to transfer files. so my choice would be jingle <img src='http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: dele</title>
		<link>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/#comment-2544</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>We now have two phone icons in Spark. Dial and Call. Any plans to consolidate them??. 

I tried to make a Jingle call to the GTalk client on my Nokia 770 and it failed miserably. Looking forward to when I can do that soon...

--dele</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We now have two phone icons in Spark. Dial and Call. Any plans to consolidate them??. </p>
<p>I tried to make a Jingle call to the GTalk client on my Nokia 770 and it failed miserably. Looking forward to when I can do that soon&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8211;dele
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		<title>by: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/#comment-2540</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>sander: My apologies for the mistake! No, we don't support IAX. That will likely never be a standard Jingle mechanism. Do you guys plan to support the more standard stuff? If so, we'd love to do some interop testing.

marc: it's still too early for interop with other clients, but it should start to happen soon. As for file transfer -- the standards proposals are still being heavily debated within the XSF. Hopefully there will be progress soon. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sander: My apologies for the mistake! No, we don&#8217;t support IAX. That will likely never be a standard Jingle mechanism. Do you guys plan to support the more standard stuff? If so, we&#8217;d love to do some interop testing.</p>
<p>marc: it&#8217;s still too early for interop with other clients, but it should start to happen soon. As for file transfer &#8212; the standards proposals are still being heavily debated within the XSF. Hopefully there will be progress soon. <img src='http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: sander</title>
		<link>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/#comment-2539</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@Matt: No, Coccinella does not use libjingle it *also* uses a fresh Jingle implementation. Mats wrote his own implementation and it should be compatible with any other Jingle client that implements the specs correctly. So, Jive guys do not think you were first with a fresh implementation :-P ;-) Note that Coccinella uses IAX for transporting the media, so if Spark supports IAX, it should be compatible with Coccinella (this also counts as a feature request ;-) ).

btw: Coccinella also supports the Wildfire-only specification for Asterisk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt: No, Coccinella does not use libjingle it *also* uses a fresh Jingle implementation. Mats wrote his own implementation and it should be compatible with any other Jingle client that implements the specs correctly. So, Jive guys do not think you were first with a fresh implementation <img src='http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Note that Coccinella uses IAX for transporting the media, so if Spark supports IAX, it should be compatible with Coccinella (this also counts as a feature request <img src='http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
<p>btw: Coccinella also supports the Wildfire-only specification for Asterisk.
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		<title>by: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/#comment-2532</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So is there any intercompatiblity to other clients?
And how about Jingle File Transfer, anything in the making :) ?

Greetings from Germany,
Marc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is there any intercompatiblity to other clients?<br />
And how about Jingle File Transfer, anything in the making <img src='http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ?</p>
<p>Greetings from Germany,<br />
Marc
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		<title>by: events concerts tickets &#187; Ring Ring!</title>
		<link>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/#comment-2521</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/#comment-2521</guid>
					<description>[...] Original post by matt [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Original post by matt [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/#comment-2518</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/2007/03/13/ring-ring/#comment-2518</guid>
					<description>Magnus: we're using the latest version of the protocol, although with our own twists to the ICE negotiation as mentioned in my blog post. Google has said they'll move to the official Jingle protocol once it gets a bit further in the standard process.

fabieuse: we had to hack some libraries to make Mac support, but a few users are reporting that things work well. I would still consider it a bit experimental unitl we get a chance to test more. 

sander: good to hear that you had Jingle support 9 years ago. ;) You're using libjingle? That's great, although libjingle doesn't do the actual updated Jingle protocol yet and still has lots of Google Talk custom extensions. The thing we're excited about is that our stack is an entirely fresh Jingle client implementation (the first we know of). It should greatly help interop testing as more Jingle clients come online.

Regards,
Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magnus: we&#8217;re using the latest version of the protocol, although with our own twists to the ICE negotiation as mentioned in my blog post. Google has said they&#8217;ll move to the official Jingle protocol once it gets a bit further in the standard process.</p>
<p>fabieuse: we had to hack some libraries to make Mac support, but a few users are reporting that things work well. I would still consider it a bit experimental unitl we get a chance to test more. </p>
<p>sander: good to hear that you had Jingle support 9 years ago. <img src='http://www.igniterealtime.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  You&#8217;re using libjingle? That&#8217;s great, although libjingle doesn&#8217;t do the actual updated Jingle protocol yet and still has lots of Google Talk custom extensions. The thing we&#8217;re excited about is that our stack is an entirely fresh Jingle client implementation (the first we know of). It should greatly help interop testing as more Jingle clients come online.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Matt
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